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Post by Curious on May 18, 2018 14:07:45 GMT -8
Posted by Curious on October 09, 1997 at 04:23:10:
In Reply to: End of an Era posted by ArcticBear on October 09, 1997 at 00:46:37:
Well said, AB. It is a sad day. I had a bad feeling about all this before I went to work this morning. Now I return and BAM.
I feel like I just lost some good friends. In the past year these are people I felt like I knew better and more openly (and honestly) than many of the people I know in the "real" world.
I will miss you all.
Curious (aka imcurious@anon.nymserver.com)
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Post by Pat on May 18, 2018 14:09:42 GMT -8
Posted by Pat on October 09, 1997 at 07:26:56:
In Reply to: End of an Era posted by ArcticBear on October 09, 1997 at 00:46:37:
I also feel sad tonight. The last 2 weeks have been a real turning point in this board. Doc, Flyfisher and Omerta will be missed. I hope we might see them back in the future. I am trying to look at this has another ever changing personality of this board. New personalities will come and go none can replace the ones we've lost but they will take the board in many more directions. Gp and Bashful run the board but the users are the ones that give it its ever changing personality.
Pat
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Post by BOBnNEAL on May 18, 2018 14:21:48 GMT -8
This is all a bit too personal
Posted by BOBnNEAL on October 09, 1997 at 01:30:07: I don't think anyone should be banned from a place that appears to be a public voice area. I don't think leaving a site will solve problems either. Between Chisel and GP there is a choice for people, regardless we can't say either person is wrong, they both have opinions. Passwords may be a bit too late, in the end all will lose with the lack of good input.......bob
Why can't we all get along?
I suggest NO ONE is banned from any site. Its still too easy fake a post, or feel attacked. GP or Bash should not be allowed to play god and decide a persons fate. There is no judge or jury here.
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Post by Counsel on May 18, 2018 14:28:26 GMT -8
Posted by Counsel on October 09, 1997 at 01:51:42:In Reply to: This is all a bit too personal posted by BOBnNEAL on October 09, 1997 at 01:30:07:
There's no question of anyone here "allowing" or "not allowing" them to do anything. Like I inferred earlier, if they want to "play" God, they can do it -- except, I suspect, they won't be "playing." The posts on this subject have been very intense and personal to all of us. Too personal? I don't think so. The reason so many people react so strongly is that they care. These are not the posts of people who don't give a damn, and just want to talk about who can get the cheapest lay in Armpit, Nevada. We - overall and almost to a person -- care about each other, about what they think, what they say, and about what happens to them.
So it hurts when people leave. It hurt when Buffy left, and when the guys left, that hurt, too. This is a tight little community we have developing here, and when something happens to someone, everyone else knows about it and responds to the extent that they can. They either offer love, support, words of encouragement, sex or the happy cyber-imitation thereof (yes, sex, I would imagine, is sometimes very therapeutic) or something to help out.
The fact that those people left makes us sad, but we need to grab hands, pull together, and keep going. Like Kath says, when it's all said and done, it's about us.
Counsel
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Post by Unclebob on May 18, 2018 14:30:03 GMT -8
Posted by Unclebob on October 09, 1997 at 02:16:01:
In Reply to: Re: This is all a bit too personal posted by Counsel on October 09, 1997 at 01:51:42:
Counsel, It truly IS about us, and nothing but us!!!
Thank you for those reassuring words.
Unclebob
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Post by 49er Will on May 18, 2018 14:32:05 GMT -8
Posted by 49erWill on October 10, 1997 at 01:30:51:
In Reply to: Re: This is all a bit too personal posted by Counsel on October 09, 1997 at 01:51:42:
There is no doubt that the loss of some of the hole will effect us all!!!!!Ideas,opinions and beliefs are lost but more to this is that peoples friendships and their relationships are effected when cooler heads and intelligence dosen't prevail.Remember intelligence is the ability to apply the mind effectively to ANY SITUATION,study or PROBLEM;clear thinking plus GOOD JUDGMENT.Some where in there GP,Basfull and the Hall of fame group should find common ground.So get your Shit together before you can't sawallow your pride!!!!! 49erWill
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Post by That Dude on May 18, 2018 14:45:31 GMT -8
GP: Buffy Says Yes
Posted by Doc on October 09, 1997 at 20:31:00:Georgia Powers:
I just got off the phone with Buffy at 7:18pm Pacific time.
Buffy agrees to the following:
1) She acknowledges that there are rules on this board.
2) She agrees to follow them.
She requests that you agree to the following:
1) You will announce that the rules apply to everyone on this board.
2) You will enforce the rules fairly and evenly.
If you agree, then you can remove the ban on Buffy.
She will post briefly tonight to acknowledge the agreement.
Then we can all move past this, so much stronger than we were before.
GP, you have all the power here. For the sake of everyone on this board, for all of us who need so badly for this thing to be behind us . . . for whatever reason you can find in your heart . . .
Please say yes.
Respectfully,
Doc doc@cyberpass.net Posted by That Dude on October 08, 1997 at 22:16:55:In Reply to: Goodbye My Friends. I am Gone. posted by Doc on October 08, 1997 at 21:18:11:Doc: I have been reading your messages for quit some time now, and all i can say sir is, You are one CLASS ACT.
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Post by Stimpy on May 18, 2018 14:47:36 GMT -8
Posted by Mr Stimpy on October 08, 1997 at 22:49:55:
In Reply to: Goodbye My Friends. I am Gone. posted by Doc on October 08, 1997 at 21:18:11:
I've been visiting this board for a few months now and I just recently started to post a few of my thoughts. I just wanted to tell you, Doc, you will be missed. Your posts kept me, and everyone else informed in all areas. I hope in time you will reconsider your choice. If not goodbye.
Your friend
Mr. Stimpy
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Post by XXX on May 18, 2018 14:49:43 GMT -8
Posted by XXX on October 08, 1997 at 23:07:45:
In Reply to: Goodbye My Friends. I am Gone. posted by Doc on October 08, 1997 at 21:18:11:
This is turning in to a soap opera! Who's going to next? Hey Doc are you still going to the meeting in July? Or did you give up on that too. I as well as other should take it personal when some one leaves the board. What are they too good for us? Too smart for us? What the hell. As for BUFFY I would have liked for her to come back on the board, but I think that might never happen. Which is sad. XXX A Cyberwhoremonger for EVER.
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Post by BIG BAMBOO on May 18, 2018 14:53:11 GMT -8
WHAT AN ODD BOARD!
Posted by BIG BAMBOO on October 09, 1997 at 06:26:24: In Reply to: Re: Goodbye My Friends. I am Gone. posted by XXX on October 08, 1997 at 23:07:45: Tri X, You are the bomb. I like your straight forward approach to this nonsense. Buffy is a fun whore. Why would anyone want to get rid of that bitch. she is a lot of fun and she should be here with that guy DOC and FLYFISHER, and OMERTA, ETC, ETC. Yours truely, Bamboo
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Post by XXX on May 18, 2018 14:54:52 GMT -8
Posted by XXX on October 08, 1997 at 23:10:27:
In Reply to: Re: Goodbye My Friends. I am Gone. posted by XXX on October 08, 1997 at 23:07:45:
P.S DOC YOU WILL BE MISSED!!
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Post by Counsel on May 18, 2018 14:56:28 GMT -8
Posted by Counsel on October 08, 1997 at 23:58:40:
In Reply to: Goodbye My Friends. I am Gone. posted by Doc on October 08, 1997 at 21:18:11:
Geez, Doc . . .
Just when our back-n-forth posts in the "An Open Letter" string were starting to get interesting . . . we only needed about 50 more posts in that string to start getting to the heart of the matter!
I'm going to miss having someone to argue with, Doc. If I try that with anyone else, they're just gonna say "fuck you, Counsel," and leave the string. At least you were trying to humor me . . .
Send me some e-mail, sometime. Please keep in touch.
Counsel
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Post by Jake Brake on May 18, 2018 15:02:48 GMT -8
My thoughts
Posted by Jake Brake on October 09, 1997 at 00:47:53: In Reply to: Goodbye My Friends. I am Gone. posted by Doc on October 08, 1997 at 21:18:11: I have become one of those lurkers that sit back behind the scenes watching, listening, and learning and have probably the greatest tool by which to learn from - my wife. I send GP a field report a long time ago about how I had visited, met, and married my wife while enjoying her services in Winnemucca, NV. I've seen a lot and experienced a lot since those days; one of those is having the opportunity to have met the elusive Georgia Powers. I have not asked for his permission to say what I have to say but I'm going to say it anyway.
For those of you who have not met him and I would venture to say that is probably everyone with the exception of maybe his fiathful sidekick; that when he talks about this website, the message board and the people who visit his words are gracious and passionate. I've known him for about nine months now developing what I would call a good long lasting friendship. He has poured everything, his money (which he has an abundant amount of JK) his time and his life into this message board and when I see people accuse him of being deceitful, or dishonest I feel the anger rising inside me. He has ALWAYS been gracious, polite, and honest with everything he says and does. I personally think Doc was out of line tonight; he broke one of the rules that he claimed he wanted applied fairly to everyone - not to attack someone personally. He could have said he had some differences that could not be worked out and that would have been more than sufficient for everyone to know his true meaning. Nope, Doc went out of his way to attack Georgia Powers personally; calling him among other things, a LIAR! Doc, I say this to you:
you do not know Georgia Powers, you do not know anything about him other than he owns and operates this play ground. You support some one who is vulgar, rude, obnoxious, and above all conceited to the bone. That was present in every one of her messages; I'm sure you will say the same about GP but I challenge you Doc, to go back through the archives and find me a single message that GP put up that is anything but straight forward, honest, and polite. He has always been the gracious host here inspite of children like Buffy. I have not spoken with Georgia Powers about the recent problems and have no intention of doing so and I ask you this Doc, what gave you the right to negotiate on behalf of Buffy? I can only presume that she doesn't have the capacity to negotiate her own return and must consult an attorney to do so, unless of course your not a lawyer.
I will anger many by my words but I cannot and will not continue to sit idly by and allow others to attack the very fabric of a gentleman that I happen to respect both personally and professionally. Doc has claimed that Georgia Powers had sent Buffy an abusive email message; I therefore challenge all of you here to answer this one single question:
"Tell me one instance where you have received an abusive or rude email comment from GP?"
Do we take the word of someone who has acted without regard to others as Buffy has and from someone who has every reason to sabatoge him or do we go back and check our own messages from him and see what the truth could possibly be.
I will say this, I don't think there is a single person here who can honestly say that GP has been anything but polite and courteous to them. We all know by now that Georgia Powers has relegated Buffy to the Trash Heap; it doesn't matter if we agree with that decision or not, but consider this: with GP's actions plainly in our mind who stands the most to gain from this blatenet and personal attack on him? and of course we all know the answer to that.
To Georgia Powers, you will always remain my friend, my confidant, my mentor, as well as that of my wife; I think your efforts here are splendid and have accomplished more than anyone ever could have. You have spent the past year trying your hardest to give the rest of us a place to visit and learn from and if that is the measure of success you have become the most successful CWM I'll ever know.
To Bashful: I have always enjoyed your thoughtful and insightful comments and color commentary, but I'm somewhat suprised that you have not publicly commented on this issue at all. I know that you and Georgia Powers are comrads and work closely together that is obvious, but I think the rest of us would like to know where you really stand on this. This issue would not have erupted like this if the grand daddy of them all had stood up and defended the personal attack on his friend.
That is the end of my truck banging, smoking speech.
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Post by Interested bystander on May 18, 2018 15:05:28 GMT -8
Posted by Interested bystander on October 09, 1997 at 09:23:40:
In Reply to: My thoughts posted by Jake Brake on October 09, 1997 at 00:47:53:
Jake;
It is always good to see someone new posting and I am glad that you are sticking up for your friend Georgia Powers. However, I must comment negatively on part of your post. I have never met GP and have only had one e-mail encounter with him. I do not agree with his ban on Buffy but I have refrained from commenting on the situation because I do not know what went on between GP and Buffy. However, I must stick up for Buffy as a person. Buffy is more than a working name to the lady who uses it; Buffy is a whole different persona. It is true that a lot of the lady's real personality is included in Buffy but that is only a small part of the person. I feel I have gotten to know the person behind Buffy a little through e-mail and she deserves to be here. Just as you do not want anyone to attack GP personally without knowing what went on I feel Buffy should not be attacked personally by those who do not know her other face.
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Post by Jake Brake on May 18, 2018 15:08:12 GMT -8
Posted by Jake Brake on October 09, 1997 at 11:58:19:
In Reply to: Re: My thoughts posted by Interested bystander on October 09, 1997 at 09:23:40:
Here's the point of my original message, no one can tell me of a single instance whereby Georgia Powers has been anything but polite and gracious to everyone one of us here but the same cannot be said for Buffy. Remember actions speak and her actions/words have spoken volumes about her. I can only surmise what her intentions here were but I believe that Georgia Powers stated publicly that everyone is welcome including her provided they just stay within the rules, I can say that in my mind she didn't do that just by reading her own words. I haven't talked to anyone about this and don't really care to at this point I have to get back to work which means i'll be gone for three weeks but I will say this: Georgia Powers gave us a place to play and have fun in but it is still his place and we need to respect that; regardless of what his reasons are he made a decision, carrying this on will do no one any good.
I am saddened that among friends people become so attached that they allow feelings to make judgements.
Jake Brake Back on the road and thankfully a break from the bullshit
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