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Post by Admin on May 16, 2018 15:22:43 GMT -8
Posted by Georgia Powers on October 04, 1997 at 19:52:32:It seems that I must broach this subject once again to my own dismay. The rules that have been established for this message board are general and leave enough room for everyone to have an enjoyable time reading and posting...HOWEVER, they need to be followed by everyone.
Today I blocked an individuals' access to post here due to some rule violations....that is not something that I enjoy nor do I want to do it again. If the individual in the future decides that they can abide by the rules I'll be more than happy to restore their ability to post.
I've been extremely lenient in regards to the subject matter, and will continue to allow some latitude but, do not abuse it please.
One of the main factors that was used when developing those rules is simple LEGAL. When we start discussing subject matter like human feces, attempts to make a date for a party, etc. we are no longer considered an adult site but rather a site that delves into obscene material and pandering. Until such time that isn't my neck on the line that is just the way it is.
I'm not going to rant or rave about it; simply let everyone know that I can and will block repeat offenders access to post here. Please, keep everything in context so such action does not need to be taken again or even discussed again.
I will not discuss the person or the circumstances surrounding the action so DON'T ASK!
If you have any questions, just drop me a note and I'll be happy to answer them. You can direct your questions to Bashful but I'm quite certain that he's going to forward you to me or to the rules for review...so read them before sending email...you just might find your answer there.
Sincerely,
Georgia Powers Note from Admin: Stay tuned to this thread. This is just the 1st of many ups and downs and around and around twist to come. How it ends, many of those that lived it know the outcome. The sequence of events is one of the many reasons why, in the early days of SIN and Brothel message boards, we were referred to as the day time TV show "AS the Message board turns." Those that weren't around can enjoy the comedy, drama and craziness of it all.
Below is a link to what Buffy thought of the whole thing.
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Post by Doc on May 16, 2018 15:26:44 GMT -8
Open Letter to GP Regarding Buffy
Posted by Doc on October 06, 1997 at 00:48:09: I'm just back from Carson and I'd like to be writing about my experiences, or maybe I could just go to sleep . . .
But we have yet another in a seemingly endless series of board crises.
GP, have you banned Buffy from the board?
And are you trying to do it in such a way as to avoid public comment?
GP, there are many people here who recognize Buffy's positive contribution to the board, and who appreciate her sharpness, directness, intelligence, honesty, and wit.
You are one of the people who do not.
It's your board, so if you ban someone, that's your right.
But you have banned someone apparently because you personally do not happen to understand their style and do not recognize their contribution.
In my opinion Buffy has brought a much-needed breath of fresh air to your board. Her ten years of experience as a working prostitute at the Mustang Ranch gives her words the authority of authentic experience. If she sometimes disturbes people's illusions of what brothel life is like, then those are illusions that need to be disturbed.
Your act of banning Buffy, and the covert manner in which you are doing so, does not sit well with me.
I invite you to reconsider your actions.
I myself am at this moment reconsidering my continued participation on your board.
Respectfully,
Doc doc@cyberpass.net
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Post by Skoonj on May 16, 2018 15:31:33 GMT -8
Posted by Skoonj on October 06, 1997 at 05:53:13:
In Reply to: Open Letter to GP Regarding Buffy posted by Doc on October 06, 1997 at 00:48:09:
Doc, I've had the same feeling myself. This is my first post since that action. Until I looked this morning, there were few posts. A lot of people seem to be walking on eggshells. I think it has had a stifling effect on posts here, at least from those who heard what happened. I hope Buffy comes back.
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Post by Tessa on May 16, 2018 15:34:16 GMT -8
I feel ....
Posted by Tessa on October 06, 1997 at 12:49:01: In Reply to: Re: Open Letter to GP Regarding Buffy posted by Skoonj on October 06, 1997 at 05:53:13:Like a little kid with an unstable home.
"Mommy, Daddy, stop fighting!" I'm scared... I need my teddy bear, and a warm bottle of milk.....
Tessa Tesssa@innocent.com
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Post by Georgia Powers on May 16, 2018 15:36:22 GMT -8
Posted by Georgia Powers on October 06, 1997 at 13:02:23:
In Reply to: I feel .... posted by Tessa on October 06, 1997 at 12:49:01:
Tessa, you always have the knack for shining a little light on just about any subject.....thanks for the reality check.
GP
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Post by Pat on May 16, 2018 15:38:27 GMT -8
Posted by Pat on October 06, 1997 at 08:32:30:
In Reply to: Open Letter to GP Regarding Buffy posted by Doc on October 06, 1997 at 00:48:09:
My views on this are mixed. I like Buffy and do agree that she adds a lot of fun and excitment to the board. My understanding is that Gp gave her an opportunity to stay on if she was willing to compromise on some issues of amount of post and toneing down her language. She decided not to do this. I wrote her and advised her that she maybe should recconcider. Buffy! I do hope you come back on.
This is Gp's board. I don't know what his real reasons are for the actions he took. Only he knows that. I do think that he has the right to do whatever he thinks is in the best interest of the board. Do I agree with the decision? I am un-decided on this. I would hope that all interested parties could work something out.
Pat
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Post by Georgia Powers on May 16, 2018 15:40:13 GMT -8
Posted by Georgia Powers on October 06, 1997 at 10:26:21:
In Reply to: Open Letter to GP Regarding Buffy posted by Doc on October 06, 1997 at 00:48:09:
Doc, I'm very tempted to let loose right now but to do so would violate the very rules that I hold everyone else to therefore I'll withhold my comments to you. I've already stated that I will not discuss the matter on this board, and I will not regardless of who poses the question....whether it be you, Bashful, Katherine or anyone else.
You certainly have the right to discontinue your participation if that is your desire; I would hope that you wouldn't take that step but that is a decision that only you can make.
The matter is closed my position stands.
GP
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Post by Doc on May 16, 2018 15:42:50 GMT -8
Posted by Doc on October 06, 1997 at 10:48:28:In Reply to: Re: Open Letter to GP Regarding Buffy posted by Georgia Powers on October 06, 1997 at 10:26:21:
GP, Perhaps you would be willing to EXPLAIN your position. You can hardly say your position stands without having the courtesy to explain it so that at least I know where you are coming from on this. Doc doc@cyberpass.net
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Post by Georgia Powers on May 16, 2018 15:44:32 GMT -8
Posted by Georgia Powers on October 06, 1997 at 11:05:27:
In Reply to: Re: Open Letter to GP Regarding Buffy posted by Doc on October 06, 1997 at 10:48:28:
Doc, I'm not about to get into a flame war here with you.....I sent you a personal email in reply to yours and as always you are more than welcome to call me directly on the matter.
I explained my reasons in my posts about the rules....
GP
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Post by Georgia Powers on May 16, 2018 15:47:52 GMT -8
Posted by Georgia Powers on October 06, 1997 at 10:26:21:
In Reply to: Open Letter to GP Regarding Buffy posted by Doc on October 06, 1997 at 00:48:09:
Doc, I'm very tempted to let loose right now but to do so would violate the very rules that I hold everyone else to therefore I'll withhold my comments to you. I've already stated that I will not discuss the matter on this board, and I will not regardless of who poses the question....whether it be you, Bashful, Katherine or anyone else.
You certainly have the right to discontinue your participation if that is your desire; I would hope that you wouldn't take that step but that is a decision that only you can make.
The matter is closed my position stands.
GP
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Post by Buffy Supporter on May 16, 2018 15:52:47 GMT -8
Shame on you GP
Posted by Buffy Supporter on October 06, 1997 at 10:28:26: In Reply to: Open Letter to GP Regarding Buffy posted by Doc on October 06, 1997 at 00:48:09:You'd like everyone to believe that she was doing some sort of illegal activity, which is not the case. Buffy ruins the whole "whore experience" for you, and you can't deal with that. Long live Buffy!!!
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Post by Georgia Powers on May 16, 2018 15:55:24 GMT -8
Posted by Georgia Powers on October 06, 1997 at 11:25:21:
In Reply to: Shame on you GP posted by Buffy Supporter on October 06, 1997 at 10:28:26:
I've made no comments as to what the specifics were or are....what I have said is this...which goes for anyone on here present or future....if your willing to follow the rules then you are welcome...the offer was made and stands ....
You could have the courtesy of at least saying who you are like everyone else....I didn't use a "FAKE HANDLE" I used the same one as always as did Pat and Skoonj...Skoonj didn't agree with my decision...you didn't see me delete that post did you? You didn't see me ban him did you?....why not at least have the fortitude to use your regular handle.
That would at least let us know who you really are and what you really think
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Post by The Prof on May 16, 2018 15:59:10 GMT -8
Posted by The Prof on October 06, 1997 at 11:22:30:
In Reply to: Open Letter to GP Regarding Buffy posted by Doc on October 06, 1997 at 00:48:09:
I started to write a follow-up to this, but got called away. I came back and read GP's reply. All I can do is repeat what the rabbit from 'Alice in Wonderland' says: "Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear".
It's not my business to comment on the specific circumstances of this incident, so I won't. What I will say is that this newsgroup needs to be treated like a friend's house: when you visit the first few times you move around fairly gingerly, and then more boldly as you become familiar and accepted. However, at all times we need to be aware that we're in someone else's domain, and that their sensitivities are paramount.
I would hope that we wouldn't lose the participation of any of the people concerned. Funny, though - this whole thing reminds me of the tale where the king seats his advisor on the throne, and the advisor looks up to find a sword hanging by a thread directly over him. It seems like GP is like the monarch on that throne, and the thread that holds the sword keeps getting knawed at every so often. Perhaps we need to sit on a throne like that to really appreciate what it is we have here.
Just my $0.02. Hope I haven't offended anybody, and I apologize if I have. I'll stand by my position, though. After all, it's only an opinion.
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Post by BIg Bamboo on May 16, 2018 16:02:31 GMT -8
Posted by BIg Bamboo on October 06, 1997 at 13:41:31:
In Reply to: Open Letter to GP Regarding Buffy posted by Doc on October 06, 1997 at 00:48:09:
Wow, I thought that the internet was one of the places were heavy handed censorship would not occur. Especially on a site devoted to the the sharing of information about legal prositution. I am probably at least as guilty of sophomoric, off color posts as anyone. It seems like too much legal posturing (God I hate lawyers ), and for the good of the board bullshit. It is your toy. If you won't let the little whore (Buffy' word) play here anymore its your, and consequently our loss. I hope that the possible hook up the HBO Real Sex didn't provoke the ban. The way that I understand it, Buffy can come back if she humbly bows and scrapes to the powers that be. I'm not sure that she can do that. Until recently I had nothing but positive feeling for you and your work on this board. Sometimes a moderate position where all parties can save face is better than the inflexible position where everyone loses Bamboo
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Post by Georgia Powers on May 16, 2018 16:13:02 GMT -8
Posted by Georgia Powers on October 06, 1997 at 14:28:57:In Reply to: Re: Open Letter to GP Regarding Buffy posted by BIg Bamboo on October 06, 1997 at 13:41:31:This may be the internet but this message board has been moderated since its inception, which I don't think has missed by many people around here....as for the heavy handed censorship....that just hasn't happened. You have the right to say whatever you want to say...however I do not have to provide you the forum in which to say it.
The only channel that I've talked about doing anything with is Playboy....but I'll let that issue go for now....this decision had nothing to do with the Playboy issue or any other except for following the posted rules.You assessment could not be any further from the truth.....what I requested and she subsequently refused to do was simply follow the rules....that is all.....pure and simple....I'm not going to continue rehashing the same old discussion about it. In order for this message system to survive there has to be a certain amount of order and rules that everyone must follow....everyone has a choice in following these simple rules....if you happen to refuse then I don't have to permit you access...its that damn simple!
I'm sorry that you are disappointed in me....I try my best to keep things on subject and moving along and I'm not perfect...but I cannot continue to allow people to run rampant on here without some form of control......this bullshit about this being a site where anything goes isn't going to happen. This is a discussion on legalized prostitution....not your cats sickness or how well your dog eats his dog food.
I made an offer to restore the access provided the person agrees to stay within the rules...which by the way have been there for over two months.....all they had to do was agree to the rules that everyone else is expected to follow....they elected to not do so....which left me little choice in the matter....
That's it...I've said all I'm going to say on the matter....like ir or not that is the way it is....when anyone refuses to follow the rules they run the risk of losing posting access....the offer stands that if she agrees to stay within the rules I'll be more than happy to restore the access.
I will not respond on this matter again.
GP
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