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Post by Pat on Nov 4, 2018 13:11:03 GMT -8
This is the 1st posting i made on anything about CWMC 8. I hope to find all postings I made about the awards contest. I will also post any post made about CWMC 8 events and the results of the voting on my Board awards.
If you voted before please do not vote again. I will be posting this Voting thread periodically in different Forums. You do not need to vote every time. I would hope you do not. My bookkeeping will be a lot easier,if you don't. I do have several ways to double check the votes cast.Thanks The Voting is now officially open for your favorite Courtesan and Brothel. To vote all you need to do is go to Verizon.net/res1dzs0/message boards|My Web Page] (no longer available). The only votes that will count will be those submitted through the interactive form on my site. All votes that are submitted will be printed out and saved. You will also get a confirmation from me indicating who you voted for. I recommend you save this. I am only accepting votes from those that are active members of SIN and NVBrothels. See the rules below or on my site. Those votes that I cannot verify through the profiles or other sources, I will contact you via Email to try and resolve any questionable voters.
The winners will be announced at CWMC8. I will also have a copy of all votes at the CWMC8 Banquet. I will most likely have someone during CWMC8 verify the count. I will not disclose who voted for whom. But! If there is a question about some ones vote I will show you your individual vote to verify it was counted. You can only vote once. You have from now until June 30th. Once you vote I will not accept changes in your vote. Before you vote make sure you are satisfied with your choice.
The vote will be a one time vote. I am not going to have a vote for nominations and then pick the top five for the final vote. Whoever gets the most amounts of votes will be the winner. I am not going to post a running list of how the vote is going. My reasoning for this is that keeping a running count of how its going can influence the voting. You will all know at the same time who the winners are. It will be posted on both message boards and announced at the CWMC8.
Past history says that these votes tend to cause controversy. I suspect this year it will be the same. I will not spend a lot of time debating the importance of this award over past awards or others doing it this year. I will count the votes and announce the winners. I will let others debate the merits of the vote. I will be honest in my count and do all I can to make sure all votes are within the rules. I will do the best I can in weeding out those that might be trying to make multiple votes. No system is fool proof. I will answer questions about how to vote or any other questions you may have. I will not debate the legitimacy of the vote. Those that want to participate I welcome your involvement. Those that think it is unfair or slanted are entitled to that opinion.
Thank you for your time.
The Rules 1. I am only accepting votes from the guys. I feel this will prevent any house from casting all their votes for one lady. This would make it unfair for the smaller houses.
2. I will only count votes that have "your board handle" "Your email" and have a posting count of "20 or more post" You only get to vote once. Once you vote no changes will be allowed.
3.The only votes that will count are those that use the form below. Inboxes and emails will not be counted.
4. I will only accept votes from both the NVBrothel(NVB) and Sex-in-Nevada(SIN)Message Boards.
5. Their are only 2 categories, Favorite Brothel and Favorite Lady. Any lady that has worked in a Brothel 1 week this last year up to June 30th 2004 is eligible.
6. Any votes that may be questionable I will make an attempt to verify the vote. It will only be counted if I can confirm it's legitimate.
7. This is only a vote for the posters of the boards to give the ladies and Brothels some recognition. It will have no more or less weight than any other awards of this type.
8. It's meant to be fun while at the same time showing appreciation to the ladies and Brothels.
9. I will be the sole counter of the votes. I have no ties to any particular ladies or Brothels. Those that trust my judgement feel free to vote. Those that find the voting to be unfair are free to criticize it. I may or may not respond.
10. The finale results will be announced at the CWMC8 Banquet.
Note: I never did get the reason as to why but Curious said he would rather have me not announce the winners at the Banquet because of a time problem. So I gave out my Board Awards at the Wild horse cocktail party. The Trophies and Certificates that were won by those not attending the Wild Horse cocktail party were delivered to the individual ranches or ladies.
Pat
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Post by Pat on Nov 5, 2018 14:42:50 GMT -8
This is my attempt at letting the posters of the Message Boards pick a Brothel and a lady they feel should be recognized for thier excellence in providing good service to the guys on the Message boards. The voting will start on January 1st 2004. The last day to vote will be June 30th 2004.
The Results
The results were determined by the following participants.
64 posters voted 56 were qualified voters 32 ladies received votes 10 Brothels received votes
The voting for the Brothel of the year was very close. The difference for the 1st place and 3rd place was 2 votes.
The voting on the Courtesan of the year was also close. The difference from 1st place to the 3rd place was 5 votes, with 3rd place being a tie between 4 ladies. Everyone else was within 2 votes.
All areas of Nevada were represented equally. It was not a North vs South competition. The votes were evenly divided by those from the South or North.I will also add that I was the only one counting the votes. I also paid for all the certificates and trophies myself. Their was no committee donating. I think that those holding these types of awards/contest should also take responsibility for the cost. I was happy to pay for the trophies, create and make the certificates, and keep track of the voting. I also feel that it was one of the funnest and very rewarding experiences.
More About the Awards
I have seen some discussion on the Awards on NBT. I am not allowed to post on NBT so I will add my thoughts here.
I was the only one that counted the votes. It was done fairly and everyone I received a vote from was sent an Email to confirm their vote. There may or not be some that are suspicious of the vote. I can't change that nor does it really matter to me. I'm not the won winning anything. All I did was keep track of the votes as they came in. I did not vote myself because it was close enough that my vote could have swayed the results. I was surprised and pleased that most spoke kindly of the Board Awards. I can't find or remember anyone speaking negatively about how they were conducted or that they were not fair or had bias for or against any Brothel or working lady.
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Post by Pat on Nov 5, 2018 16:45:05 GMT -8
C.W. MONGER'S MESSAGE BOARD ] [ FAQ ]
Posted by Pat on August 09, 2004 at 10:43:48I believe the majority opinion is that the ladies and Brothels that utilize the internet benefit greatly from it. I agree to a point. I just think that only a very small percentage of the ladies and Brothels benefit and it isn't nearly as powerful as it's made out to be. Let me explain why i think this way.
As you know I did one of the Brothel Awards votes. One of the most surprising things to me was how it turned out in comparison to good and bad internet publicity. This was especially true in the Brothels. WHR, the winner, for the most part gets plenty of internet publicity. Mostly good. Sheri's gets quite a bit of publicity. Lots of it bad.Yes! they do also have a few cheerleaders. They also have a few posters who's mission has been to destroy them. They came in 2nd place. They were also within 1 or 2 votes of the WHR, on my Awards voting.
The MLBR, A Brothel that probably gets more bad internet publicity than any other Brothel, did as well as all the other Reno/CC Brothels except the WHR. They came in along with the rest of the Brothels 4 or 5 votes below the top 3. One of the Reno/CC Brothels had 1 more vote than the rest. The rest were all tied.
The ladies are a bit different. Most of the ladies had some or a lot of internet presence. Most of it good. The only exceptions that i notice is Lilly of WHR who does have some internet presence but very little. She did as well as some of the other ladies that have a whole lot of positive internet presence. The other exception might be AirForce AMY. She has a lot of internet presence, but it's fairly even on the positive and negative. She like MLBR and Sheri's has some that seem to go out of their way to attack her.
My Awards vote also differed in its outcome than Fredt's did. Fredt did not post much about the Brothels and ladies and how they all placed. I have had conversations with those that helped Fred with his vote. What i learned was that other than the winner of the BOY, are results were very different.
I have my theories on this. I had the advantage of seeing who voted on Fredt's Awards. I also know who voted on my Awards. From what I can observe the difference was on the sites that voted. Fredt's vote seemed to have more votes from SIN. My vote had more votes from the Old NVB and we were split on the voters from NBT. I know many of these votes cross over. This is just a generalization.
I also think that the way we both held the vote had some effect on the outcome. I had one Vote. Everybody votes for their favorite over a 6 month period. You could only vote one time. The winners were those with the most vote at the end. Fredt's vote was 3 separate votes. The nomination vote. Then out of that the top nominators were but in a 2nd vote, I'm not sure how many that consisted of. The top of that group then went into a final round. All voters could vote on each individual vote. I do not believe they had to stick to their original vote from the 1st round. Fredt can correct me on parts i don't have right.
YES!! the internet is a player with the Brothels and ladies. How big of a player is mostly opinion. I think not as big as the message boards would like to think.
Pat
The winners were Wild Horse Ranch and Chay.
I shook and had buckets of sweat pouring out of my armpits. Somehow I got through it.
Tabitha Lilly Airforce Amy Alicia Piper
all received a certificate and trophy. I will post pics when I get home next week.
Wildhorse got a certificate and Plaque
Chay got a Certificate and larger trophy
Sheri's and Chicken Ranch both got a Certificate.
Sportsman will deliver the Trophy for Alicia and cerificates to CR and Sheris.
Tabitha and Airforce Amy were not present at the WHR party. I will deliver them their trophy and Certificate tomorrow.
Thank you to all those that parfticipated and especially to all the ladies and Brothels
Conradulations to all.
Pat
Handle Email address: Favorite Brothel Favorite Courtesan Comments
The above form was used to cast the votes.
You may still use this to contact me with any comments
Pat
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Post by CookieMonster/"Q" on Nov 6, 2018 14:27:26 GMT -8
July Banquet though
This post is from CWMC 14 I am adding it in here because it refers back to my Board Awards from CWMC 8. It is also just another example of how controversial, although fun and some of the greatest memories of my time in LPIN. The CWMC's are either boring as hell, or have a bit of drama to them.
Pat
Wouldn't want to over complicate those too.
July Banquet thoughts
July Banquet thoughts
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Every ending is a new beginning Posted by Pat #23 on: November 06, 2010, 04:00:29 PM Or you could do what I did, in 2004. Just get on the boards and say you are going to have a Message board awards contest voted on by the participants of the active message boards at that time. Make some rules and announce it. Then you do the counting, you pick up the tab and see what happens. In my case it worked out fairly well. I was the only judge, some might have a problem with that, but I got very little flack about that. The cost was about $1200.00 for 7 trophies and I made and created the certificates myself. That was the least of my concerns. I enjoyed doing them. It was fairly easy. I did not care about the cost even though I have a less money than most of the other guys.
The only glitch I ran into was that the committee made a decision that I should not present them at the Banquet. So I decided to give out my Awards at the Wild Horse cocktail party. That seemed to work out OK! I enjoyed the whole experience and have no regrets about any of it. I would suggest unless you are doing them because you enjoy doing it, you should not be doing them. If you are one of those posters that does the Awards and them comes on here and bitches about how much work they were to do, you should not be doing them.
Pat
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Post by elkogfe on Jan 20, 2019 14:31:51 GMT -8
elkogfe Brothel Employee Brothel Lover « on: January 16, 2019, 11:42:00 PM » Posts: 100
BROTHEL AWARDS RELOADED
I just thought I would post a question.
Does anybody have any great ideas on how we could have a brothel awards that would get more people involved?
Meaning more people then just mongers?
What if we could get 1000 voters.
We have many Lookie loos here how can these type get involved?
Wouldn’t it be awesome to have an awards that really felt like it had amazing value and numerous voters.
Just a thought..
Nothing negative against the current LPIN awards. Just looking to improve and grow our industry.
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Post by Georgia Powers on Jan 20, 2019 15:26:55 GMT -8
Courtesan of the Year Award Note from Admin:
This post is from the Original beginning of the Brothel awards. Over the years they have had many changes. Who ever is financing the awards and doing the preparation work decides what the rules are for that year. 1 year their was no public vote on any awards. Another year their were 2 people giving out awards. Several times individuals gave out personal awards. As far as having more people know about the awards, their was one year where they were mentioned in a newspaper from Russia, if i am remembering correctly. Most years we've had the awards, the rules and who was able to participate was different. Somewhere along the way people starting associating the awards with CWMC. I'm not sure when that started. One year we actually had an anti LIPN message board allowed to vote for the awards. I thought that was a stupid idea. I wasn't doing the awards that year. I would say that sometime after CWMC 8 is when they started being associated with CWMC. I will post more about this in other post .
Posted by Georgia Powers on December 17, 1997 at 13:52:30:In Reply to: Re: Courtesan of the Year Award posted by Klatch on December 17, 1997 at 04:18:33:Some seem to have been confused over where the awards were originating from..... maybe that is in part my fault for not making the point extremely clear.
At no time did I intend to say that the awards were coming from the CWM group...rather they were coming from the Georgia Powers Bordello Connection.
However, I have a problem understanding the difference between this and the Academy Awards....do they say one actor is better than the others? No, it just says that the industry has recognized them as an actor for that year...nothing more and certainly nothing less...what I also find a little disconcerting is the very fact that I mentioned the awards over a month ago in three separate and nobody objected to them then....unless of course people either didn't take the idea seriously or just did not give it much thought.
Some have called it a trifle award...if that is the case then what's the fuss? If the award isn't worth much then nobody should have an objection to its presentation.
I'm not indicating that I'm upset over some voicing a differing opinion...for if that was the case there are different methods in handling that....I want everyone's input but that does not always mean that any singlular input will be the overriding factor in making a decision.
Yes, Bashful and I did talk about it and I told him what I was going to be doing....yes, we did not agree on all the points...however that is not to say that it is a good idea nor is it a bad idea.
If I confused some, or led some to believe that I would be presenting these awards on behalf of the CWM then to that extent I apologize...that was not my intent as they were designed from the start to originate from the Georgia Powers Bordello Connection.
But, let's look at this another way....if I had just picked a single individual for the Courtesan of the Year Award myself without input from the readers we all know what the reaction to that would have been; even knowing that the awards were originating from my site.
I appreciate everyone's input and it has not fallen completely on deaf ears; however, I will still proceed with the awards and if you would prefer not to vote either in the nominating process or the actual voting then don't....that is certainly your choice.....but at least take into consideration that the awards are *NOT* coming from the CWM but rather from my website itself.
GP
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Post by Pat on Jan 20, 2019 15:30:28 GMT -8
Re: Courtesan of the Year Award
Posted by Pat on December 17, 1997 at 14:52:56: In Reply to: Re: Courtesan of the Year Award posted by Georgia Powers on December 17, 1997 at 13:52:30: sometimes I'm a little slow and have a problem understanding things. Could you please explain to me what the difference is between a CWM and and the Goergia Powers Bordello Connection. I have always thought anyone that contributes to this site is a CWM.
A little dense but willing to learn
Pat
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Post by Bashful on Jan 20, 2019 15:33:06 GMT -8
Re: Courtesan of the Year Award
Posted by Bashful on December 17, 1959 at 14:58:17:In Reply to: Re: Courtesan of the Year Award posted by Pat on December 17, 1997 at 14:52:56: Dear Pat,
The website "Georgia Power's Bordello Connection" is owned by, uh, Georgia Powers. The CWMs (Cyberwhoremongers) are owned by nobody. Dig?
Be seeing you.
Bashful
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Post by Rachel Varga on Jan 20, 2019 15:42:49 GMT -8
Rachel Varga The Bomb! Administrator Brothel Lifer « Reply #1 on: Today (Jan 16th 2019) at 04:23:00 AM » Posts: 946 Gender: Female Rachel Varga - 2016 Courtesan of the Year
Re: BROTHEL AWARDS RELOADED
This is a good question. I think there are many ways to do this. Some things may seem critical of the current awards but it's really just constructive criticism. Some things have limitations because of money so that is a factor.
1. Accept anonymous donations. It costs money to make the trophy's and rent the hall and so on. 2. Make registration and voting as simple as possible. Use a service like surveyminkey where each voter gets an anonymous ballot and it is all calculated on the backend. 3. Expand the awards. I have been talking about a Rookie of the Year award for a long time. 4. The lpinawards site was built quickly because of time constraints. It coild now go to regular site. I would have that done for free, but have a mock up made first so they could see what I mean. 5. Having once a year to discuss things at the picnic is not practical. Need to do this throughout the yearvia discord or something.
I believe there is a really good foundation that can be improved upon.
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Post by Pat on Jan 20, 2019 17:19:10 GMT -8
Re: BROTHEL AWARDS RELOADED
It is obvious that you are not aware of who decides, who gives out the awards and who makes the rules. Anyone that wants to give out COY or any other awards can. All they have to do is make an announcement, find a venue, and make whatever rules they want. They have been given out at the Banquet most of the time. That does not mean that CWMC or the Banquet host are the same people that are giving out the awards. If they want to give out the awards at the Banquet they have to get permission from the Banquet host. The year I gave out my Board awards I gave them out at The Wild Horse cocktail party.
I read your 5 points ill respond to them here.
1. Accept anonymous donations. It costs money to make the trophy's and rent the hall and so on.
The trophies and certificates can cost money, as much or as little as the sponsor of the awards wants to spend. In many years the sponsors had others help pay for them. The renting of the Banquet facilities is paid for by the ticket prices received from those that want to attend. In most cases, that I know about, the facilities were not paid for by the awards presenter or a Awards committee. The banquet host made those arrangements. When I gave out my Awards I paid for it myself. It was my idea. It was my money that paid for the awards. I was the one that made the rules. I did not have to work hard or was it any hardship on me. It was easy, fun, and I enjoyed doing it.
2. Make registration and voting as simple as possible. Use a service like surveyminkey where each voter gets an anonymous ballot and it is all calculated on the back end.
I say let the person(s) who are paying and holding the awards make whatever rules they want. It's there awards not yours. Now if you want to sponsor the Awards, you can make whatever rules you want. I understand it's a lot easier to criticize how things should be done. A better idea is to not talk about it or tell others how to do them. Like NIKE says just do it. Don't talk about it. Take some action towards getting it done. It could be a big flop and you may have some critics. On the other hand it could also be a lot of fun and very rewarding. Mine were with very little criticism. I don't remember getting any negative feed back . Just the opposite! I did totally blow the presentation speech, but everyone thought it was fine. If their was some negativity about my Awards I never heard or read about it.
3, Expand the awards. I have been talking about a Rookie of the Year award for a long time.
Go for it! No one is stopping you from having a rookie of the year award.
4. The lpinawards site was built quickly because of time constraints. It coild now go to regular site. I would have that done for free, but have a mock up made first so they could see what I mean.
Good for you. When will this be completed? Will you be doing the awards also? Will you have a committee? Will you be paying for the Awards? could you give us an exact explanation of the rules, location, and the time you will be presenting them?
5. Having once a year to discuss things at the picnic is not practical. Need to do this throughout the yearvia discord or something.
I agree with this if your working with a committee. If your doing them alone then all you need to do is get the message out about your Awards on every message board you are registered on. post your Awards information periodically on all sources you have available(Twitter,Facebook, ect, ect). Make sure you explain in detail, and in the simplest form you can, so those interested know exactly what you are doing.
I believe there is a really good foundation that can be improved upon.
I'm not sure about improving on it. What is it that you are going to improve ? The way the Awards were done at CWMC #2 or the way they were done at #3 to #23. I thought some were excellent and their was no need for improvement on those. Some of the others were very controversial. I know their is a lot of talk about abused and unfairness in the Awards and how some have been handled. Double voting, calls of unfairness and other criticism have happened in the past. I think this is only true on very few occasions. 90% of the times the Awards were great and the majority of their participants felt they were done in a fair and honest way. I know mine were. I said it before and I,ll say it again. When I did mine I did not hear or read or see any one complaining about how mine were done. I also can only think of a few incidents out of the 23 years that their was any serious wrong doing or hankypanky going on. So when will you be announcing your Awards? Remember just because someone as all ready started the Awards this year doesn't mean that you can't jump in and have your own Awards this year. All you need is a set of balls to jump in and just do it. Or you can criticize what others have done. Yea! that is much safer.
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Post by Admin on Jan 20, 2019 18:17:32 GMT -8
I was searching the internet when I came across this bit of information. I was around when we went from being called the CWM (Cyber Whore Mongers) to being known as CWMC (Cyber WhoreMongers club/community). Below is what I saw on a blog. Their never was anything in LPIN associated with the CWMC awards that ever reffered to our little club as (Cyber Working-Girl Monger Club) Who ever made that Blog has no idea what they are talking about. I think someone is trying to re-write history. Shame! Shame!.
This person not only messed up what CWMC stands for they also are wrong about how the previous 23 Awards were voted on and the rules for voting. In 23 years their have been several different ways the Awards were presented and who presented them. Sometimes it was just an individual that picked the lady to become COY. At other times it was a public vote with a selected choice on what message boards could vote and what the rules were for being a qualified voter. One or 2 years they actually had an anti LPIN board being qualified to vote. That was a message board called Board of the banned(BOB). I think that if your going to write a blog it would be a good idea to have some factual history of what really happened. Making stuff up doesn't change the real history of what actually happened. I have been to 22 out of the 23 CWMC events. I witnessed and took part in these events. I conducted my own Awards I speak from experience. The blog made up a story to fit what they wished had happened. If they don't like how we did it do it your way, but don't distort the way it was done in the past.
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Post by Admin on Jan 24, 2019 13:31:32 GMT -8
Thoughts from this board...CWMC6 Awards
Note from Admin: I know this is posted elsewhere on this message board. It also isn't about CWMC 8, but the pros and cons on how the CWMC voting and rules are decided from year to year. Those responding to this thread were members of several message boards but their responses were made on NVB (Nevada Brothels). I've added this information here to let the readers read the varied opinions on Voting and rules about the CWMC events from a different source of posters.
07-27-2002, 12:19 PM Pat Registered User Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: On top of the World Posts: 3,810 This was posted at IB's board. I thought i would see how posters over here feel about it. It has become clear that the CWMC awards have gained stature and more meaning (to the rest of the world) over the years. What started as just something fun to do, now may have become a responsibility we need to look at in a more serious light.
As more people, including people in the industry, become aware of the awards and put more importance on them, we need to do the same.
Some of the ideas I present here will not be popular. Heck, some of it I don't agree with myself. But I think they are issues that need to be brought out and discussed. So, I am sorry in advance for all those I piss off! And I urge all of you to add your ideas, concerns, and comments. Just please keep it friendly!
This past group of awards saw some major campaigning - resulting in a sweep by the South. Personally I do not believe that the results truly represented the majority feelings of THIS COMMUNITY.
Please note that I have nothing personally against any of the award recipients. I have long been a champion of the Southern ranches. My first Nevada brothel experience was at the Chicken Ranch. For years, until I attended CWMC2 in fact, all my LPIN experience was in the Southern houses. None of this is anything against the award winners, it is just that I think it is time we formalize the process of how we determine the winners, and make at least the "rules" public.
The industry has entered a brave new world, and it is only natural that businesses exploit whatever options exist. Look at how the houses' use and perception of the Internet has changed in just the last couple of years. Only a few years ago the girls who worked at the CR were told NOT to set up their own personal web site, and to never communicate via email with a client or potential customer! Now they have a web site of their own, complete with pictures! Amazing! I understand Sheri's has a computer room for the girls to use! Amazing! They also have a professional working to promote the house on the Net. Amazing! I could go on and on.
The bottom line is that "our" awards, which started as almost a lark by one person a few years ago, have become awards that people want. Probably because "we" are the only client based group, as well as the only group giving such awards. So I think it is time we stepped up to the plate and took the responsibility seriously.
What I list here are topics I think we need to discuss. Some of these are my ideas, some are other peoples ideas. Some are items just to make you think, some are (IMHO) serious issues we need to resolve. I do NOT have all the answers. But I feel that AS A COMMUNITY we need to find the answers.
And no, it has nothing to do with "how long, what activities, and how much".
I'll start with a biggie: 1 - Who can vote? This is, in my mind, one of the most difficult questions, but clearly we need some controls on who can vote. Obviously we need to limit it to one vote per person. But we need to go beyond that. Is it fair if I get all 100 members of my bowling group to vote for someone they have never even heard of?
- How about if voting is limited to only those persons who have posted on one of the major boards in the past year?
- If the person is a lurker, they must have either attended a CWMC event, or be personally known by someone who has attended?
- Each person must either be known, or post from a "real" email address (not Hotmail or Yahoo, for example).
This leads to the second item, of even greater importance (but less controversial, I suspect 2 - All rules about the voting MUST be established and published prior to the commencement of the nominating process.Additional rules Here, in no particular order, are ideas for some of the other "rules" for your consideration3 - Nominations are open to anyone, top five in each category go to the final voting. If necessary run off's will be held to select the top five. That leads to number 4:4 - What are the categories for the awards? Should we keep the same 4 as we had this year? Maybe add another award for best new courtesan of the year? 5 - The awards should not be "tied" to a particular web site, nor to the host of the banquet. 6 - Publish the number of votes each finalist gets.7 - Rules against stuffing the ballot box. Unethical activities or attempts to (unfairly?) influence the outcome leads to disqualification. 8 - When someone votes, the ballot is immediately emailed to all members of the voting committee staff.When you post in response to these ideas, PLEASE include the item numbers I have used here, if possible.
And TIA Thanks for your input ...Posted by Curious
copied here by Pat
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Post by TB on Jan 24, 2019 14:01:49 GMT -8
07-27-2002, 12:37 PM TB Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2000
Posts: 4,851 RE: Pat...
I have followed the thread on both of the other boards. The brothels and the ladies gain a lot from the awards, so let them pay. Charge an entry fee for the ladies for their awards if they want to participate. Charge the brothels also. If they pay, put them on a ballot. Use this money to finance the awards. As far as the voting, get cooperation from all three boards webmasters, and let them distribute ballots to known or registered posters. A system can be established for the potential voter to e-mail the webmaster and request a ballot and if he is registered or known, the ballot would be sent and then returned to the webmaster. The ballots would be tallied and the results announced at the banquet by a designated host. TB
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Post by Border_Bandit on Jan 24, 2019 14:29:40 GMT -8
Old 07-27-2002, 01:57 PM Border_Bandit Registered User Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 1,952 RE: Thoughts from this board...CWMC6 Awards
In my opinion, a defined set of rules for voting is very appropriate and very much needed. I do not believe that anything underhanded has happened with the voting but I do think that there is a lot of "potential" for abuse. 1 - Who can vote?I truly believe that only paying customers should be able to vote.2 - All rules about the voting MUST be established and published prior to the commencement of the nominating process.Most definitely. For the awards to have any tangible value, they have to be won both fairly and consistently. 3 - Nominations are open to anyone, top five in each category go to the final voting. If necessary run off's will be held to select the top five.I don't think I like the idea of a "Top 5". I suspect I'd prefer to see a single ballot... no primary vote... no nominations... just a single pop! LOL 4 - What are the categories for the awards? Should we keep the same 4 as we had this year? Maybe add another award for best new courtesan of the year?Maybe we should keep the number of awards static for a while. After all we could simply go overboard and add all sorts of additional awards which would simply dilute the awards process.5 - The awards should not be "tied" to a particular web site, nor to the host of the banquet.I agree but without external funding this is going to be VERY difficult to pull off.6 - Publish the number of votes each finalist gets.This could very likely offend some of the ladies when they see the number of votes they actually receive.7 - Rules against stuffing the ballot box. Unethical activities or attempts to (unfairly?) influence the outcome leads to disqualification.This IS, what I personally believe, to be an absolute necessity...8 - When someone votes, the ballot is immediately emailed to all members of the voting committee staff.Sounds like a possible solution to mitigate any risk of cheating or modifying the vote...
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Post by Speed Racer on Jan 24, 2019 14:36:22 GMT -8
07-27-2002, 02:18 PM Speed Racer Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 3,236 RE: Thoughts from this board...CWMC6 Awards
I agree with your "no nominations" proposal. This year, I did not vote in the COY catagory, since at that time I had never met 4 of the 5 finalists and had never partied with any of them. The lady I personally nominated did not receive enough votes to reach the "runoff" stage of voting. I didn't think it was fair to vote for any of the eventual finalists simply based upon their online reputation alone, so I declined to vote this year in that catagory.
Regards, Speed Racer
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