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Post by Georgia Powers on Jul 10, 2018 13:14:34 GMT -8
Posted by Georgia Powers on November 04, 1997 at 23:44:10:
I would like everyone to know that over the past year I've thoroughly enjoyed working on this website and the many friendships I've made, with one in particular that I cherish emmensly; however, I have been in recognizing that this site has become much more expensive than I had previously thought.
Bashful and I have been making several attempts in keeping the bandwidth to an absolute minimum in order to control those costs.
Today, I received the site statistics for the past month and I was totally caught off guard by how popular the entire site has become. Our bandwidth problem unfortunately just escalated to mammoth proportions. Over the past month the bandwidth was in excess of 3.2 GiG. For those of you who are not computer savy that means our site has transferred 3,200,000,000 bytes over the course of the last month. That equates to four volumes of the Colorado Statutes.
Herein lies the problem; the current ISP only allows one GIG of transfer base meaning we exceeded that by 2.2 GIG. Bottom line is this: Within two weeks I'm going to receive a bill in excess of $1,250.00.
Last month was a bad month for bandwidth and by archiving the messages every two days we thought that we could lower that bandwidth but what we did not realize was that with all of the new readers coming on board things were only going to get worse and they certainly did......by 100 fold.
I cannot carry these kind of charges for more than ONE month and will need to find another ISP that is willing to host the site real quick to avoid these outragous charges for more than one month.
This is not to b construed as a plea for money or a threat of shutting down the site......what it is is letting you know throughout our community that these kind of charges have to come to an end. If this happens for two months in a row I'll have no alternative but to close the site down until such time as I find a more reasonable method of providing the service.
I've avoided for a long time discussing money with anyone for several reasons, the first being the fact that I don't like and have never liked requesting money from people; guess that is one reason I'd make a lousy politician. Here's the simple scoop - I need your help in finding another ISP to host this service and I mean ASP.
I'll be spending sometime tomorrow night looking for another ISP but if you happen to know of one that doesn't object to the hosting of adult material and the costs are reasonable let me know as soon as possible.
I don't want to even consider shutting this site down but unfortunately with my impending move, and the fact that I'll be out of town this next week I cannot continue to do this and this month alone with be hard felt.
I sincerely apologize to all for not bringing this up more often, it was not meant to keep anyone in the dark, it was however was soemthing that I honestly thought could be controlled and to that extent I was wrong.
I don't need sarcastic remarks, or complaints right now....if you have a valid solution then I suggest you send it, if not then don't waste either of our time when it could be spent more productively.
Sincerely,
Georgia Powers
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Post by Senior on Jul 10, 2018 13:16:21 GMT -8
Posted by Senior on November 04, 1997 at 23:54:25:
In Reply to: A serious problem all should be aware of posted by Georgia Powers on November 04, 1997 at 23:44:10:
How about setting up a donation box in the houses?
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Post by Curious on Jul 10, 2018 13:18:35 GMT -8
Posted by Curious on November 05, 1997 at 01:36:04:
In Reply to: A serious problem all should be aware of posted by Georgia Powers on November 04, 1997 at 23:44:10:
GP -
I don't know of his ability to handle the bandwidth, but you might want to talk to the guy who runs Paranoia.com. I believe his name is Kevin. You can do whois on paranoia.com and get a phone number, or Bashful should know how to contact him.
And, as I've said before, let me know where and I'd be happy to help out with a check.
Curious imcurious@anon.nymserver.com
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Post by Bashful on Jul 10, 2018 13:20:41 GMT -8
Not Paranoia.com.
Posted by Bashful on November 05, 1959 at 05:22:45:In Reply to: Re: A serious problem all should be aware of posted by Curious on November 05, 1997 at 01:36:04:Paranoia.com can not handle the website. Can't handle the bandwidth, and can't give you direct access to cgi-bin.
Be seeing you.
Bashful
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Post by ArcticBear on Jul 10, 2018 13:23:40 GMT -8
Posted by ArcticBear on November 05, 1997 at 01:46:04:In Reply to: A serious problem all should be aware of posted by Georgia Powers on November 04, 1997 at 23:44:10: GP, have you tried Geocities. There geo+ program gives you 10 MB of storage and only costs $5 per month. Don't know how tough they are on content but that's where my site is and they haven't kicked me yet. There is a no nudity or offensive content thing but I'm not sure the message board falls into. You might want to at least check their content rules.
"God I'm addicted. I'm writing this on my laptop connected to my cell phone on a lay over at an airport"
A Trying To Be Helpful To GP
ArcticBear
arctic_bear@hotmail.com
www.geocities.com/sourthbeach/cove/5696
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Post by Bashful on Jul 10, 2018 13:26:14 GMT -8
Not Geocities.
Posted by Bashful on November 05, 1959 at 05:24:39: In Reply to: Re: A serious problem all should be aware of posted by ArcticBear on November 05, 1997 at 01:46:04:Geocities does not allow direct access to cgi-bin, so we can't use them.
Be seeing you.
Bashful
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Post by Curious on Jul 10, 2018 13:29:21 GMT -8
Looking forward to those LIVE updates...
Posted by Curious on November 05, 1997 at 03:04:33:In Reply to: Re: A serious problem all should be aware of posted by ArcticBear on November 05, 1997 at 01:46:04: Hey AB - I'm looking forward to those blow by blow reports from your lap top from the ladies room!!!
** LOL **
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Post by GeeDub\Flyfisher on Jul 10, 2018 13:31:47 GMT -8
Posted by GeeDub on November 05, 1997 at 21:26:18:
In Reply to: Looking forward to those LIVE updates... posted by Curious on November 05, 1997 at 03:04:33:
Curious,
Once upon a time, I jokingly mentioned doing a realtime report on a GP thread. Perhaps AB will achieve it! Hope so GeeDub
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Post by ArcticBear on Jul 10, 2018 13:33:31 GMT -8
Posted by ArcticBear on November 06, 1997 at 00:05:17:In Reply to: Re: Looking forward to those LIVE updates... posted by GeeDub on November 05, 1997 at 21:26:18:Well, if there's a phone hookup at the SB1 that I can use, I'll see if a certain lady will let me do a blow by blow account. (within reason).
A Sportscasting
ArcticBear
arctic_bear@hotmail.com
www.geocities.com/sourthbeach/cove/5696
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Post by GeeDub\Flyfisher on Jul 10, 2018 13:35:33 GMT -8
Posted by GeeDub on November 06, 1997 at 01:20:18:
In Reply to: Re: Looking forward to those LIVE updates... posted by ArcticBear on November 06, 1997 at 00:05:17:
Arctic Bear,
Yeah...while you're busy stopping the indelectable attention and unspeably wonderful things your body and mind are experiencing with I know who, you'll say, "excuse me darling, I have to key in the moments passion...uh, could you refrain from that butterfly flick, er please, please! Please don't stop, ever!" Smash goes the laptop as legs and bodies thrash and the modem card pops out and gets smashed in the tangle of happy sweaty loving combat. Bear, I'd considered doing it...said considered. I can write, or I can party. If I was gonna be with who you are, I'm a partier first and a writer later. This isn't to say you can't or won't. I just wouldn't dare dilute that special time. There's a time to love and a time to write. Just love what you're doing with whom your with---and give her a big ol' Bear Hug for A supportive GeeDub (adjectivin' for a Southern Arctic Bear)
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Post by Bashful on Jul 10, 2018 13:38:37 GMT -8
Three things are needed.
Posted by Bashful on November 05, 1959 at 05:36:37: In Reply to: A serious problem all should be aware of posted by Georgia Powers on November 04, 1997 at 23:44:10:Dear Readers,
There are three things that GP and I need in a new ISP.
1. It MUST allow adult content.
2. It MUST allow direct access to cgi-bin. That means that GP or I can directly fiddle with the script files. Most ISPs allow you to use scripts that are already in cgi-bin, or to submit scripts for their slow approval, but GP and I need to be able to do whatever we want to with the cgi-bin scripts whenever we want to.
3. It MUST have cheap bandwidth! GP's current ISP, Dimensional.com, gives you the first gigabyte per month with the service, but then charges you at the rate of $10 per 20 megabytes for bandwidth over the one gigabyte limit. That is a rate of $500 per gigabyte! This is much, much higher than the rate for any other ISP that I know of, and is the immediate reason why GP needs to leave his present ISP.
Thank you for your suggestions, but unless your suggestion fits all three requirements, then it is useless.
Please, start looking around cyberspace and see if you can help GP and I find an ISP that will give us a website that fits all three of those requirements. And please make sure that it fits all three of those requirements.
Your help is much appreciated!
Be seeing you.
Bashful
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Post by Curious on Jul 10, 2018 13:41:28 GMT -8
The mother of all solutions...
Posted by Curious on November 05, 1997 at 11:11:42:In Reply to: Three things are needed. posted by Bashful on November 05, 1959 at 05:36:37: OK. My search tells me that VERY FEW ISPs want you to have direct access to cgi scripting. Afraid you might crash the system, I guess.
SO... How about we set up our own server? In my area I can get an ISP to co-host for $200 per month on up, based on what kind of speed I want. No more worries about cgi access, content, or useage.
I know there are others here far more qualified than I to set this up, but I will be happy to help. I do know how to put together systems, and I am a reseller, so I can get NT at a not for resale price.
Just an idea....
Curious
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Post by Bashful on Jul 10, 2018 13:44:49 GMT -8
The mother of all solutions ... YES!!!
Posted by Bashful on November 05, 1959 at 11:27:36:In Reply to: The mother of all solutions... posted by Curious on November 05, 1997 at 11:11:42:Dear Curious,
GP's ISP, Dimensional.com, uses something called "cgiwrap" to keep people from crashing the system, but still you are correct that very few ISPs are willing to allow direct cgi-bin access.
Could you please find out the exact prices for various bandwidth options? I am willing to contribute $50 a month out of my own pocket to finance something like this, and if a few of you other fellows are willing to do likewise, then I am sure that something like this is doable. And of course, GP is paying much, much more than that right now ...
Ultimately, the decision is GP's, it is his website. But GP and I have discussed this option before, of getting our very own machine hooked up to the Internet, but the prices for such a hook-up seemed high.
Yes, this would be much, much preferable. Then we can set up any number of e-mail accounts and ... well ... all kinds of things come to mind!
The devil is in the details, but this certainly sounds perfect to me. But the operating system would have to be the only proper operating system for a webserver, UNIX.
Be seeing you.
Bashful
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Post by Curious on Jul 10, 2018 13:48:13 GMT -8
Posted by Curious on November 05, 1997 at 11:36:23:
In Reply to: Re: The mother of all solutions ... YES!!! posted by Bashful on November 05, 1959 at 11:27:36:
Why uuuuuuUNIX? Look at all the new stuff coming out that allows you to do so much with NT.
I have a friend running a server for a client and she can dial into the server using PC Anywhere and do any thing - even reboot it - from the comfort of her home office! (It's running NT).
She also runs Foxpro programs for users while they are online. This could allow real time database searches for party reports, old messages, all kind of stuff using a real programing language!
I am actually currently involved in a project where we are usinga database to set up an online catalog. In the back of my mind was the idea that this could handle trip reports as well.
I'll check costs today, and let you know.
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Post by ArcticBear on Jul 10, 2018 13:50:22 GMT -8
Posted by ArcticBear on November 05, 1997 at 21:05:57:
In Reply to: Re: The mother of all solutions ... YES!!! posted by Bashful on November 05, 1959 at 11:27:36:
I also think your own webserver may be a good idea. But guys, lets face it, with the amount of volume your doing, you're almost going to have to take this to a commercial level of some sort to keep up. You know as well as I that a T1 connection is not cheap. The good news is that with the amout of traffic a simple advertising paradigm would offset alot of expense.
As of UNIX, I'd suggest you not be too quick do discount Windows NT. My company has three webservers running for inter and intra nets. Two are NT machines and not near as tempermental. Also consider that using a NT machine will allow you to use MS FrontPage extension which simplify many of the tasks your already doing. Thinks like threaded discussion groups are built into the thing a can be remotely adminstered.
I to would be willing to kick in some jew-jew but it would be easier for me to do it on a bi-yearly or yearly basis. Just food for thought but if you did this maybe as part of some of the finicial contributions an anymous email and website space could be included?
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