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Post by Wildfire on Jan 21, 2019 18:09:25 GMT -8
Wildfire Hoser Family Member « Reply #15 on: April 18, 2012, 07:01:37 PM » Posts: 2968Re: If pimps are bad
IRS CONTRACTORS Independent Contractor Defined (from the IRS) People such as doctors, dentists, veterinarians, lawyers, accountants, contractors, subcontractors, public stenographers, or auctioneers who are in an independent trade, business, or profession in which they offer their services to the general public are generally independent contractors. However, whether these people are independent contractors or employees depends on the facts in each case. The general rule is that an individual is an independent contractor if the payer has the right to control or direct only the result of the work and not what will be done and how it will be done. The earnings of a person who is working as an independent contractor are subject to Self-Employment Tax.
You are not an independent contractor if you perform services that can be controlled by an employer (what will be done and how it will be done). This applies even if you are given freedom of action. What matters is that the employer has the legal right to control the details of how the services are performed.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2012, 07:37:31 PM by Wildfire »
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Post by Bobbi on Jan 21, 2019 18:37:42 GMT -8
Bobbi Hoser Family Member Re: If pimps are bad « Reply #16 on: April 18, 2012, 07:10:37 PM » Posts: 1393 Gender: FemaleRe: If pimps are bad
YOUR point being what?
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Post by georoc01 on Jan 21, 2019 18:42:16 GMT -8
georoc01 Hoser Family Member « Reply #17 on: April 18, 2012, 07:30:10 PM » Posts: 15518 Re: If pimps are bad
That if the house controls the money and pays the lady, they are employees. If the ladies control the money and pay the house, than they are Independent Contractors. Its that difference, that makes them Independent Contractors under the law.
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Post by Bobbi on Jan 21, 2019 18:50:20 GMT -8
Bobbi Hoser Family Member « Reply #18 on: April 18, 2012, 08:32:10 PM » Posts: 1393 Gender: FemaleRe: If pimps are bad
When you go to a building contactor To have a building built you deal with the contractor, Not each and every IC. You tell the contrator what you what in your building . He finds the IC those that fit bill and in to his budget. If one IC is a little high but he really likes their work, he will try to Make a deal with with him , (NOT the people Who are buying the house their building) The contactor aka the brothel can legally make deal with the IC On a one to one bases. This has came to me by the way of two contract lawyers and a retired IRS agent. It does not have to be with each customers . There is nothing in IC laws to say that the IC can not make her deals with house .
Since the house not the Ladies hand out the 1099, All moneys under the law are considered to belong to the house.. When you have a building built you pay the builder he in turns pays the ICs.
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Post by SIDEWINDER on Jan 22, 2019 8:42:51 GMT -8
SIDEWINDER Hoser Family Member « Reply #19 on: April 18, 2012, 09:54:59 PM » Posts: 31915 I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a Handjob today!
OK, let me make this as clear as posswible
I do not blame any of the current brothel owners or Karmen for the way brothels operate. Brothel owners are only playing the hand that has been dealt to them by the county and state officials. It's not their fault that the system has been set up in such a way that women could not operate their own business without having to work at one of the houses which probably contributes to more women working illegally then legally
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Post by Sonja on Jan 22, 2019 8:47:34 GMT -8
Sonja
Hoser Family Member « Reply #20 on: April 18, 2012, 10:12:31 PM » Posts: 6327 Gender: Female Point your erection in my direction. Re: If pimps are bad,
You are da devil, Sidewinder! This was brought up before & there are 2 intransigeant camps: "The Brothel isn't a Pimp - Pimps are the devil!" and "Why legislate that prostitutes can't have a business manager if they want one?"
No one will win this debate or agree. Opinions are already set.
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Post by madison_graham on Jan 22, 2019 9:38:52 GMT -8
madison_graham Working Girl Hoser Family Member « Reply #21 on: April 19, 2012, 12:53:15 AM » Posts: 1007 Gender: Female Angry Publicist @deanneholliday
Re: If pimps are bad
Wildfire, when I worked as a Registered Nurse, some of my jobs were as an Independent Contractor and at the end of that day all that meant was that I paid all my taxes and more because I paid into my Social Security and the person or company I worked for retained the right if they so wished to terminate my "at will" services at any moment for any reason without having to give me one. They did not have to follow labor law and I was not protected under Employment Rights.
I received a paycheck every 2 weeks from the company with whom I was an IC for (not the patient but the company that hired me At Will) , just like a brothel. They billed insurance and paid me based upon my hours at the agreed beforehand pay rate. I was responsible for 100% of my taxes. I had no benefits.
« Last Edit: April 20, 2012, 05:13:04 PM by madison_graham »
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Post by Wildfire on Jan 22, 2019 9:55:28 GMT -8
Wildfire
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So then negotiations should only be with the contractor not the IC . The IC works for the contractor as an independent not as an employe.
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Post by sarafayexxx on Jan 22, 2019 9:59:02 GMT -8
sarafayexxx Guest « Reply #23 on: April 20, 2012, 11:26:17 AM »Re: If pimps are bad
I'd rather work for a house pay my room and board, give them there % and pay my taxes, But its all the same in the same sense even the IRS is pimp like. Taking money from people for the work that they didnt even do. There is something that we can all go on and on about, the pro's and con's of each thing. Shit even I'm pimp like making my ass go to work lmao...
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Post by SIDEWINDER on Jan 22, 2019 10:10:07 GMT -8
SIDEWINDER Hoser Family Member « Reply #25 on: April 20, 2012, 03:01:11 PM » Posts: 31915 I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a Handjob today!
Re: If pimps are bad
Ohh, it's much different Slednx.
BTW: Are you talking about Katherine Leigh or lady K as some called her or are you talking about karmen leigh?
To my knowledge neither one has ever owned a brothel.
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Post by Pat on Jan 22, 2019 10:31:01 GMT -8
Pat Hoser Family Member « Reply #26 on: April 20, 2012, 05:04:39 PM » Posts: 889 Every ending is a new beginning
Re: If pimps are bad
I'm with those that say LPIN isnt' a cause for Illegal Prostitutes. Nor does Illegal prostitution have any real effect on LPIN. They are just 2 different methods for guys and ladies to complete an objective. The guys want to have satisfying affordable safe sex. The ladies want to make a living at providing sex for the guys.
They both have their pros and cons. I have participated in both and have had good and bad luck in both. For some ladies the legal Brothels make the most sense and they feel the safest working in LPIN. Other ladies realize that the illegal route can have some dangers but, choose or are forced into this method because it pays the bills. Many would not qualify to work in Brothels.
Both can be very financially rewarding. They both can also be emotionally rewarding to some ladies. At the same time they can lead to feelings of despair and disgust about themselves. In some cases the ladies may have both good feelings about their jobs and disgust or hate for their job. It is something they have to battle within themselves. I think their job can be like a love hate relationship.
I am one of those that thinks Pimps aren't always a bad thing. In many cases they are nothing more than a business manager. I have been called a Pimp on this board and other boards on several occasions. Brothel owners are referred to as Pimps by some posters. Does that make every Brothel owner a bad person. I don't think so. Many posters on these LPIN boards, I think Pimp their favorite ladies. The posters that write reviews to get their favorite lady more business, are they Pimps? Are you only a Pimp if you are making money out of the connection between a Prostitute and a trick. Did you help to make that possible? What if a review gets you a better deal with the lady down the road. Aren't you, the review writers, just as much of a Pimp as the Brothel owner or street Pimp? Aren't we all courtesans and Pimps not only in our dealings with sex for money, but also in our everyday life. Anyway! I'm done rambling.
Pat « Last Edit: April 20, 2012, 05:07:42 PM by Pat »
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Post by SIDEWINDER on Jan 22, 2019 14:06:10 GMT -8
SIDEWINDER Hoser Family Member « Reply #27 on: April 20, 2012, 05:53:38 PM » Posts: 31915 I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a Handjob today!Re: If pimps are bad
Better go talk to Sherry, Pat. She might give you an earfull plus a well placed kick in the ass.
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Post by SIDEWINDER on Jan 22, 2019 14:28:24 GMT -8
SIDEWINDER Hoser Family Member « Reply #28 on: April 20, 2012, 07:48:57 PM » Posts: 31915 I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a Handjob today!
Re: If pimps are bad,
"I am one who thinks pimps are not always a bad thing?"
Whatttttttttttttttttt?
Oh pat, what are you saying? That's like saying being a slave owner is not a bad thing. Some slaves are lucky to have one.
Sheesh!!!
« Last Edit: April 20, 2012, 08:03:46 PM by SIDEWINDER »
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Post by Funmonger on Jan 22, 2019 14:35:32 GMT -8
Funmonger Hoser Family Member « Reply #29 on: April 21, 2012, 02:07:04 AM » Posts: 1460 Re: If pimps are bad,
Pat, that was quite a moving video. (note from Admin ) The Video is no longer available
Sidey, I didn't think Pat was being literal regarding pimps. I thought it was a metaphor. Maybe I am wrong.
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Post by Pat on Jan 22, 2019 15:00:17 GMT -8
SIDEWINDER Hoser Family Member « Reply #27 on: April 20, 2012, 05:53:38 PM » Posts: 31915 I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a Handjob today!Re: If pimps are bad
Better go talk to Sherry, Pat. She might give you an earfull plus a well placed kick in the ass. Re: If pimps are bad
Pat
Hoser Family Member « Reply #30 on: Jan 22, 2019, 02:50:39 PM » Posts: 889 Every ending is a new beginning
I think Sherry will be just fine with what I posted. I showed her this message board just 5 days ago. She thought it was funny. She and I are talking about her moving into my housed as a room mate sometime this week. Friends only!
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